Monday, November 15th, 2010 11:42 am
Starting some time in high school, I drank a caffeinated beverage every morning. I don't remember exactly when this started, but I know by my junior year I was making french press regularly and taking it to school in a giant insulated mug. By my freshman year of undergrad, I considered myself addicted, in that I'd get an annoying headache later in the day if I didn't have caffeine early enough. And that's how things stood for a long time. I'd use caffeine for all-nighters, but mostly it was just a background thing, a minor physical need that was easily met.

Around the time I turned 25, I noticed my hands were starting to shake. This was deeply alarming, as my grandmother died of ALS. I saw a doctor, who immediately dismissed it as a side-effect of caffeine. So I stopped drinking it on a regular basis. There was a couple days of headaches, but other than that it was just a mild annoyance, limiting the sodas I could drink and leading to worse (on average) coffee in restaurants. But other than a small blow to my self image as a caffeine-fueled hacker type, it really wasn't a big deal.

But while I had stopped drinking it on a cyclical basis, I still found myself ingesting quite a bit. It was always around, hard to avoid, and still useful for patching over the failures of my sleeping habits. That is, I hate sleeping and like staying up late. Sometimes getting stuff done, sometimes not. Night has always been my time, after everyone else has gone to sleep and I have the house to myself. The night, as some might say, holds the key. I was also getting increasingly bored/depressed with my job during this period, leading me to seek more self-worth through external productivity. My startup attempts Navling and Obsphere were during this period, basically second full-time jobs I was working on. In short, I was regularly getting < 4 hours of sleep a night, and caffeine was what I used to make that more or less work. And while I never got to the point of obvious physical addiction again, the side-effects came back. A couple days of caffeine in a row were enough to cause hand shaking again. And worse, it was losing its sleep-fighting properties. At one point, caffeine in the afternoon would actually make me horribly sleepy. So I cut back again. I never dropped it, but I kept my intake down to about once a week. That's the lowest I've ever managed to keep things for any length of time. Even while canoing the Mackenzie, having taken no caffeinated supplies with us, hundreds of miles from anything, I ended up drinking coffee and Coke.

That's more or less where things still stand. And over the last year, I've come to an unsettling conclusion. There is a very strong pattern that when I have some caffeine, I have a lot. Since, once I know insomnia is on the way, I might as well take advantage of it and binge on my treasured, lamented beverages (anything coffee based, chai, Thai iced tea...). At first I thought this was just a quirky, if more or less logical response to the situation. I've since come to realize that the compulsion is stronger. I really am addicted to caffeine. Not in the jokey ha-ha-aren't-I-a-crazy-programmer sense, or even the mild physical dependency sense. I am addicted in the big-A sense of the word. I need it. I miss it all the time when I don't have it. It's a struggle every single day not to have the very, very good coffee always on tap at work. Thankfully I'm addicted to a fairly benign, cheap and legal substance. But to call it something other than an addiction would be dishonest. I'm not sure what to do with that realization, but there it is.
Monday, November 15th, 2010 08:22 pm (UTC)
if this is distracting too much from your post tell me and I'll shut up, but my version:

I have only ever been very lightly addicted to caffeine, afaik. I drink soda. I VERY rarely touch coffee. I've never ingested bonus-caffeine-infused stuff, and I'm not all that sure caffeine even helps keep me awake. It certainly doesn't make me jittery. I get headaches if I go without, but the headache can usually be treated with a large enough dose of water (I don't know if that's placebo or if there really is something to do with hydration in my withdrawal headache).

But I am psychologically addicted in a weird way. I have gone off caffeine occasionally as part of self-treatment for minor medical ailments. Once I went off and stayed off long enough that when I next had a soda, it tasted wrong. Not only that, but there was something *missing* when I drank it. It didn't produce that little tiny burst of pleasure that usually comes with the drink. And this... creeped me out. I promptly started drinking tons of it just to get myself properly hooked again, because I wanted that little pick-me-up to function. And after that point I pretty much completely stopped drinking caffeine-free sodas, which I used to have occasionally before that...
Monday, November 15th, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC)
There's a writer/musician/superstar I vaguely know, Mykle Hansen, who embarked on his own coffee quitting process (http://mykle.com/msl/?p=48) just as I was starting to wonder how I reconcile myself to my own relationship with caffeine. That link directs to his first of many writings on the topic -- I found him to be interesting, thought provoking, and painfully raw in his introspection. For anyone who likes to explore the boundaries between self and chemical addiction, it's a very worthy read.

For myself, I haven't come up with any answers yet. I drink tea on weekdays and coffee on weekends, sometimes 3-4 expensive cups of coffee per weekend, because I love the coffeeshop ambiance + social outlet + wave of creativity and world-conquering spirit that it offers. These qualia are harder to subtract from my personality than the drawbacks... shaky hands, insomnia and anxiety, and that hint of overconfidence that reminds me a bit of a manic episode. Because of this confusion, it's hard not to like myself more (as a person) when I'm caffeinated than when I'm taking an extended break. This isn't a huge problem, but it is unresolved and I'm not sure what to do about it.

Also, hello! I swear I'm going to respond to your emails one of these days. It doesn't help that your question "Where do you get your ideas?" has me wondering Where do I get them, anyway... and spawning about 4 or 5 highly incomplete answers that I'm now stitching together into a dubious circus sideshow attraction. Coming to an inbox near you!
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 06:26 am (UTC)
Ah yes, the anxiety. That's a fairly new reaction for me, or at least I only started to put it all together over the last 9 months. Not so bad now that I know to look out for it, but still not great.

I totally understand about liking yourself better that way. I used to call it my 'caffeinated prophet' mode, but 'world-conquering spirit' an excellent way of putting it. That feeling alone is pretty darned addictive. But I suppose that's a pretty common reaction to manic episodes.

And I'm sorry, that was a terribly unfair question to ask of you. I was just awkwardly making conversation, not trying to put you on the spot!
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 05:01 pm (UTC)
Not unfair at all! It just seems easy to answer until I open my mouth, and then nothing comes out.

I really like that phrase, "caffeinated prophet". I wonder if I can fit it into one of my comics this month.
Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 03:02 am (UTC)
This is not a continuation of the thread, I just wanted to say: Nixie tube helper robot!
Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
We endeavor to please.
Monday, November 15th, 2010 09:01 pm (UTC)
Well, if'n it (Coffee Addiction) is keeping you from functioning well and/or enjoying work or home-life and/or interfering w/the r-ships and/or hobbies/activities that bring you joy, pleasure, and satisfaction, THEN it's time to figure out what to DO 'bout it. Otherwise, work on moderation if'n that'll make you feel better. As you note, at least it's a relatively benign, cheap 'n' legal substance.
Monday, November 15th, 2010 09:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this, pretty much. Tho' I'd add, "if it's bothering you," which I think it is. But if you can get a grip on it in a way that doesn't bother you... I don't see an issue.
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 06:35 am (UTC)
It doesn't really bother me as such, beyond the vague discomfort with the lack of absolute reasoned control over my actions. And that discomfort has enough triggers that solving this one wouldn't make much of a difference. :)
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 06:59 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I don't believe that absolute reasoned control over one's actions makes up more than .00002% of what can be called the human condition. It's a nice illusion, though. And it's not fun to be driven by desire for a substance that isn't necessary to one's survival, esp. if it interferes with things that *are* necessary, such as sleep. So.
Monday, November 15th, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
What to do with that realization? Kick the habit. I'm not sure it's as benign as most people think.
Monday, November 15th, 2010 09:38 pm (UTC)
Good on ya.

I concur with mlerules to the extent that it's only as much a problem as you find it problematic, but I'd sure as hell find it problematic if it were my habit.

Good luck finding your peace with it.
Monday, November 15th, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC)
I have similar issues with caffeine and some foods (peanut butter M&Ms, potato chips...) that lead me to believe I better stay the hell away from anything I don't want to be addicted to.
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 12:08 am (UTC)
I wonder how Addiction matters. I'm addicted to asthma medication. but that's not something people worry about. [livejournal.com profile] manintheboat's dad is addicted to alcohol, and a lot of people worry a lot about that. Where on this line does caffeine fall? and why? I ask because N's dad's alcohol problem is a medication system, in a similar way to my asthma medication: it serves a purpose in his life, and *he* doesn't think being an alcoholic is a problem any more than I think being an inhaled-bronchiodilator addict is a problem. So there's a societal/moral aspect to addiction, that is (or should be? maybe?) separate from the behavior of an individual.

We're awfully willing to condemn people for doing stuff that *we* see as a choice (and hence a moral weakness on their part.) But we're also awfully willing to rationalize our own behaviors.
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 01:33 am (UTC)
Caffeine addiction is so common in our society that coffee is routinely offered to people coming out of surgery. This started when post surgical headaches, previously attributed to anesthesia side effects, were found to be caffeine withdrawal headaches.
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 07:35 am (UTC)
I looked it up once, the amount of caffeine ingested and it's effect on the body is oscillating curve that bounces between stimulus and depressive.

However, for an addict the stimulus portion of the curve is very muted, leaving you with just the depressive half the effect.
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 03:50 pm (UTC)
You could always develop some sort of significant medical problem that affects your nervous system in such a way that drinking coffee occasionally causes syncopy or a temporary loss of control in your limbs. This would cause you to stop drinking coffee pretty quickly, at least due to utter inconvenience!

But I wouldn't recommend it. If this was eBay: Would not buy from again.

Yes, I'm kinda envious of you day-walkers, er, coffee-drinkers.
Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 07:36 pm (UTC)
I have nothing sensible to say, but this seems appropriate (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/coffee).
Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 06:02 pm (UTC)
Caffeine is an EXTREMELY addictive substance--as a cyclic alkaloid, it is chemically related to nicotine, codeine, heroin, cocaine, and morphine. Because it doesn't cause side effects on the same level as those items, it may be harder to kick. I hope you are able to eventually get away from it.