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gfish ([personal profile] gfish) wrote2011-03-31 11:32 am

And while I'm at it...

(This is the last BttF post. I think.)

It strikes me we have no idea exactly how much subjective time passed for Doc Brown before his return at the end of the first movie. He seems comfortable enough with hover and Mr. Fusion technologies, at least, and seems comfortable with the ins and outs of 2015 society. That could take years. He already hadn't visibly aged in 30 years, so there is no reason another decade or two couldn't have passed for him. Or longer, if you assume he could find life-extension treatments somewhere in the future...

He is emphatically opposed to the idea of intervention, yet he wants to save Marty's future son from prison. Of all the wrongs to right, why that? Compared to what could be done with time travel, why limit yourself to that? It could be he decided to start small, but why the fear of altering history, when it really worked out quite well the one time we saw? I don't think this was his first intervention. I think it was his last.

After mastering all the future science possible, literally learning everything about how the universe works, after trivially becoming the richest person in history and sampling the greatest pleasures of all the ages, after decades or even centuries of this, what would be left for him but to start trying to tweak things? How could he resist? He's a man of science, and he has the one tool which can make history and sociology into real sciences -- he can run counter-factual experiements on human history itself! And once you start doing that, how could you not try to use your powers for good? How long did he spend, bouncing around trying to fix human history? He could have spent millennia trapped in some altruistic Groundhog's Day loop. Constantly trying to save humanity through the ages from war and genocide and natural disaster, only to see his efforts go horribly wrong time after time.

Broken from this endless struggle, he finally decides to make one last effort, one last futile attempt to make the world an incrementally better place. Note how distracted and unworldly he is upon his return to 1985. He hasn't seen Marty for multiple lifetimes at that point! Marty is a mythical figure to him, the one person who managed to rewrite history for the better, a story grown in his own internal retelling far beyond the actual events we saw.

What a bittersweet relief it must have been to get stranded in 1885, far from the temptation of the next life-extension treatment. No wonder he was simultaneously angry and delighted to see Marty.

[identity profile] vixyish.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Christ, I'm depressed now.

[identity profile] ladymondegreen.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oy. Me too.

*hugs you*

[identity profile] stolen-tea.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I like your version of this movie!

[identity profile] caladri.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
seems comfortable with the ins and outs of 2015 society

It's always seemed to me like he had something more like a tourist's familiarity. He knew some superficial things and focused on those, but didn't know as much as he thought. Whenever Doc Brown acts confident, he seems to me like he's bluffing at least a little, like the tourist explaining to their tourist friend who arrived a day later what everything is and how everything works and mostly getting it wrong.

Note how distracted and unworldly he is upon his return to 1985.

Maybe he made a few dozen clones of himself at some point in the future where it was possible! I bet he'd totally do that. Send the clones off chasing after Marty, investigating boring periods of time, etc., and stay in his pleasure palace in the distant future (or distant past, depending on what kind of pleasure one goes for.)

[identity profile] tithonium.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally want to see Back To The Future Parts 1.001 thru 1.999 now.

[identity profile] tithonium.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. Given the timing, I guess that should be 0.9000 thru 0.9999?

[identity profile] ionan.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I would totally see this series of prequels/sequels/gaidens.
"Doc Brown: Time Jockey"

Put down the coffee.

[identity profile] sistawendy.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
how could you not try to use your powers for good?

Because you have a self-preservation instinct. A paradox might make you go poof.

[identity profile] gustavolacerda.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
:-)
Edited 2011-04-01 15:05 (UTC)

Local legend says I grew up a few miles from "Twin Pines" Mall

[identity profile] beaq.livejournal.com 2011-04-03 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
You've kind of retroactively improved my experience of 1985.

Creepy.
Edited 2011-04-03 07:46 (UTC)

[identity profile] orawnzva.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm the Doctor. I'm here to help."

There should totally be a t-shirt featuring Doc and Dr. Who and the legend "Paradox".

[identity profile] dornbeast.livejournal.com 2011-05-07 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
As a comic book geek, I immediately imagined a re-drawing of the Flash of Two Worlds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_of_Two_Worlds) cover.