Monday, October 4th, 2010 09:06 pm
So, there is a picture floating around of a big pile of mechanically separated meat. And, yeah, it's kind of gross looking. But the fuss being raised around this image really kind of annoys me. First of all, aren't we a bit beyond equating visually unpleasant with morally questionable? It's the same tactic those hideous abortion protesters use with their giant posters. I suspect an appendectomy isn't very pretty either, but that doesn't make it a bad thing.

But also... am I the only person who already knew what mechanically separated meat was? It's not exactly a new invention. Everyone knows that chickens don't actually have nuggets, right?
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 04:13 am (UTC)
What I find unpalatable is meat where you can see--or worse yet, feel--the anatomy of the dead thing you are eating. I pretty much gag on meat that's not processed beyond recognition. But that's just me being a total freak.
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 04:19 am (UTC)
I thought it looked like silly putty.
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 04:50 am (UTC)
I call shenanigans, as I said when someone posted the same image on FB: Actually, that's more likely to be a mislabelled shot of an icecream extruder - because it looks an awful lot like the ones I've seen in the food chemistry field trips I did back in the nineties, and I've been heavily personally involved in cutting/slicing/dicing/mincing and grinding animal carcases on and off for twenty years, both as a hobby and in various interactions with freezing works via the farm, and that does not look like any processed meat colour and texture I've been involved in. Plus, my chemistry sense is tingling and that colour and texture being extruded screams hot icecream with a colour 110 or similar, just pre-freezing, not pulverised meat product (Icecream goes into cardboard for freezing, too; meat doesn't, or at least, not in the places where the workers bother to wear gloves...). The mechanically recovered meat industry is remarkably scary, but it doesn't look like that.
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 05:02 am (UTC)
First of all, aren't we a bit beyond equating visually unpleasant with morally questionable?

I'd love to believe that, but there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. Exhibit A is transphobia.

ETA: It didn't gross me out. It reminded me of insulation foam.
Edited 2010-10-05 05:04 am (UTC)
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 05:13 am (UTC)
The outrage has the stench of privilege all over it. No, it's not the best nutritional content, but it's an efficient use of resources and a relatively inexpensive source of complete proteins. Not everybody can afford free-range organic air-cooled boneless skinless chicken breasts for $9 a pound. High-quality nutritive food is a luxury.
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 05:24 am (UTC)
There's a whole branch of experimental psychology dealing with how people vary their perception of an object's worth by how it is presented, and there's ample evidence that people actually do enjoy and receive more pleasure from consuming lousy wine they think is fine wine, than fine wine they think is lousy wine. I suppose that's irrational, but if it's how we're wired, is rationality relevant?
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 05:44 am (UTC)
We used to call 'em "Gerbil McNuggets" back in elementary school. :)
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 01:12 pm (UTC)
What I don't understand is why it's bad to feed more people with fewer (or the same number of) chickens. People who think the industrial food system is gross (and it is in many ways) need to look at the whole industrial food system, not just the bits that immediately appeal to the senses and sensibilities as icky. It's the facts about our food system that are hard to condense down to an impactful image that are ultimately the most troubling, anyway.
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
The thing that bugged me is... this is the same picture that was making the rounds two or three /years/ ago, isn't it?

But, yeah, ew ew food is so gross, stop eating industrial food! Urban dwelling and job specialization is so horrible and modern!