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[gfish]

People have problems with the term cisgender? That's... I don't know what that is. Quite an impressive knapsack, I guess.

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[neuro42.livejournal.com]

Yes, and "on this side of gender" is ridiculous and meaningless.

[cow.livejournal.com]

"on the near side of the gender spectrum"

[neuro42.livejournal.com]

way to self-marginalize your own position!

[cow.livejournal.com]

no. oversimplfying, because, well:

biological      the near side   genderqueer
   sex      --------------------|-------------------- transsexual
            (cis–)                           (trans–)

(1) It's not marginalization to declare a spectrum. If there isn't a cis–, there isn't a trans–. It's working within the constructs of what society has already set up to build definitions one can work with. (2) It's especially not self-marginalization, but feel free to identify me in ignorance; it's always fun to watch people do that.

[neuro42.livejournal.com]

I'm sure all of the born-intersexed people will be pleased to hear that they are no longer "biological".

Also, I didn't mean to imply that you personally are (or are not) transsexual, only that you were arguing on that side of the discussion. I regret any misunderstanding.

[caladri.livejournal.com]

Man only a full-on sucka fool would use "biological" and "medical" and "physiological" for sex as though it described some absolute, unchangeable, one-axis state. :(

[neuro42.livejournal.com]

Too, only such a one would consider 'transsexuality' to exist along a one-dimensional axis. Which is another reason the use of cis- is absurd.

[caladri.livejournal.com]

Well, this is why some of us attempt to qualify such statements to be about people presumed to be or perceived as being one or the other, since the societal distinctions that are most problematic (and where e.g. privilege is concerned) are one-dimensional. When you talk in more specific contexts that changes, but for the general case it fits the core assumptions that are made. If an XX woman without breasts, vagina or uterus is ignored by EMTs it is likely to be because they perceive her as a transwoman, for example, because that's what the societal assumptions and biases are. Not because of the specific anatomical differences for their own sake.