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gfish ([personal profile] gfish) wrote2008-09-28 02:53 pm

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Who thinks the VP debate is actually going to happen? The polls coming out just keep getting worse and worse for McCain. He's got very little to lose at this point, so we're definitely going to see more desperate moves. I'm not sure if that will mean going (even more) stunningly negative or more ridiculous stunts like last week. Palin 'deciding' to spend more time with her family and dropping out before the debate has got to be looking pretty tempting right now. We'll know by Tuesday if that's the plan. (Announce her dropping out Tuesday, announce the replacement Wednesday, debate Thursday. Three days of absolute McCain news coverage guaranteed. It might not be very GOOD coverage, but they're a bit past the point of caring.) Is anyone watching the likely replacements, to see what they're doing? I'll note McCain took an oddly timed dinner with Lieberman last night...

[identity profile] drakemonger.livejournal.com 2008-09-28 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems pretty likely. Depending on the replacement, it might be a net win for the country - I mean, I'd rather have McCain lose, but I'd rather have McCain and Lieberman win than McCain and Palin. Although I fear he'd just find someone as scary as, or scarier than, Palin to keep his base. :(

[identity profile] adularia.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Eeeyah. Lieberman seems more Cheneylike with each passing year. Granted, less obviously evil, but just as slimy.

[identity profile] catsittingstill.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Palin is just freaky. But McCain *picked* her, which in my mind makes him just as freaky.

Back when he was the maverick who stood up to the religious nuts I respected him, damnit. Now he *kisses* up to the religious nuts, and I don't see how I can go back to respecting him.

That said, a VP who wasn't crazy, and had enough glimmers of intelligence to string a couple of coherent sentences together at a time (even if it's just "I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Which of Bush's doctrines are you referring to?") would be an improvement. Provided, of course, that the replacement was such a person.

And it *would* be a guaranteed 3 days of all McCain all the time, which he seems to be hungry for.

[identity profile] bakeme.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
there's no way mccain is putting palin up against biden on national television.

no. way.

(though i really, really hope he does anyways, just for the car-crash,-can't-look-away factor)

[identity profile] carmiel.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think this has any greater chance of being true then the internet rumor about Biden bowing out for Hillary on the Democratic ticket. And don't forget, Biden has a chronic case of foot-n-mouth disease; Palin may come across better than someone who is quoted as saying FDR was on TV when the great Wall Street crash of 1929 occurred.

[identity profile] gfish.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
The polls plainly refute this. Biden has considerably better favorabilities than McCain, and Palin's are cratering:

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There is a huge difference between making the occasional crazy gaffe, like Biden, and being obviously completely incompetent, like Palin. The Couric interview was scary, and even mainstream pundits and conservative bloggers have started to point this out. The SNL sketch last night only shows how deeply entrenched this view of her has become.

[identity profile] catsittingstill.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Getting the wrong answer to who was president 90 years ago just isn't as scary as someone who can't produce a coherent sentence. Seriously, the transcript I've seen of the Couric interview was downright freaky.

If they put her in the debate they'll need a moderator who is seriously on her side, and pitches her softball questions she's memorized the answers to.

If she gets such a moderator, however, she is seriously good at playing to the Republican base. Don't count her out yet.

[identity profile] carmiel.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
would you please post the link to the transcript. I did a search for it and it did not come up. Lots of articles saying she was interviewing her on Monday 29th though...Did couric get two interviews?

[identity profile] vixyish.livejournal.com 2008-09-30 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Day one interview:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml

Day two interview:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/25/eveningnews/main4479062.shtml

The really scary bit, which for some reason CBS doesn't seem to have published:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/25/palin-bailout-healthcare/

[identity profile] randomdreams.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
McCain-Lieberman would be *strong*.
I was hoping, way back when, that John Kerry would choose McCain as his VP candidate, back before McCain apparently was taken over by pod people. At the time, McCain refused, saying that it would be unfair to the will of the country if they were elected and Kerry died, to have someone from the other party suddenly running the country. (I paraphrase from dim memory.) Given the number of quotes on this, there would be a lot of ammunition for criticism... but maybe no more than they're already taking.

[identity profile] triskadekaphile.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Lieberman went to the dark side two years ago anyway.

[identity profile] adamselzer.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
No campaign that trades VP candidates is ever going to be strong.

[identity profile] porysski.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
You're assuming that anyone but Traitor Joe would say "yes" if McCain asked them at this point. For Huckabee or Romney (The only ones who are already well-known enough to have a chance of pulling his ass out of the fire), it would just be hurting their chances in 2012, and they know it.

[identity profile] ilmarinen.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I was this optimistic (negative about McCain-Palin's campaign). Perhaps not watching regular media at all, I'm not "in-touch" with the mood of the country.

It would seem politically suicidal to replace the VP candidate at this point in the race, no?

-B.