"Those thoughts can't be causally downstream of consciousness (as epiphenomenon taken to be causally downstream of physics), but does that mean they can't be about consciousness?"
Wait--if our thoughts about consciousness are upstream of the actual perception of consciousness, at least for the most part, would that explain why thinking about consciousness seems to always lead to dead ends? That the part of our mental process that percieves conciousness can't think effectively about it because it just plain doesn't think at all? And the part of our mental process that experiences conciousness can only feed a vague signal to the part of our mental process that thinks? So that the thinking part of our brain is getting bad or incomplete data on the experience of consciousness, so that the thoughts are completely unsatisfying?
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Wait--if our thoughts about consciousness are upstream of the actual perception of consciousness, at least for the most part, would that explain why thinking about consciousness seems to always lead to dead ends? That the part of our mental process that percieves conciousness can't think effectively about it because it just plain doesn't think at all? And the part of our mental process that experiences conciousness can only feed a vague signal to the part of our mental process that thinks? So that the thinking part of our brain is getting bad or incomplete data on the experience of consciousness, so that the thoughts are completely unsatisfying?