we caused the mess, and we should be ashamed and hold ourselves (and in particular our leaders) accountable. pulling out now (or soon, say after the december elections) is the best way to diffuse the tensions; staying longer will only make things worse (both for ourselves and iraqi's).
we've killed tens of thousands of iraqi civilians; i don't think it's a given that they'll do worse.
if it wasn't for mistake after mistake (eg: abu ghraib), we could have avoided or at least salvaged this mess. we need a political, not military solution at this point. what else can we possibly do militarily?
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we've killed tens of thousands of iraqi civilians; i don't think it's a given that they'll do worse.
if it wasn't for mistake after mistake (eg: abu ghraib), we could have avoided or at least salvaged this mess. we need a political, not military solution at this point. what else can we possibly do militarily?